Natalie Carnes is an associate professor of theology in the religion department at Baylor University and an affiliate faculty member in women's and gender studies. She and Elise discuss Natalie’s latest book, Motherhood: A Confession. They talk about Natalie’s love of Augustine and Gregory of Nyssa, how to approach art made by terrible people, and why beauty is often seen as a frivolous topic.

• What is beauty? 

• Beauty and moral depravity

• Witness as an approach to art

• Gregory of Nyssa on beauty

• An Augustinian take on “slacktivism”

• Womanist theology

• Raising white daughters

• Mothering language for God 

Links:

Beauty: A Theological Engagement with Gregory of Nyssa
Motherhood: A Confession
Image and Presence: A Christological Reflection on Iconoclasm and Iconophilia
The Life of Moses by Gregory of Nyssa
The Life of Macrina by Gregory of Nyssa
Carolyn Forché
“What Do We Do with the Art of Monstrous Men?” by Claire Dederer
“Ferguson Mother of God: Our Lady against all Gun Violence” by Mark Dukes
Emilie Townes
Karen Baker-Fletcher
Shawn Copeland
Amey Adkins-Jones
Kelly Brown Douglas
Creation and the Cross by Elizabeth Johnson